Can this kind of thing be applicable to Who's Online? As now a days we have various kind of bot attacks that boggle up the mind figuring out which genuine range is camouflaged and which ones are actually scraping or eating up resource..
Do have a CDN still happens a lot,
Resulting in shop to be down...
Warm Regds./
radhavallabh
Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
-
radhavallabh
- Senior Contributor
- Posts: 466
- Joined: Tue Oct 27, 2020 4:09 am
- Phoenix Version: 1.1.0.6
- Has thanked: 29 times
- Been thanked: 3 times
- burt
- Core Team
- Posts: 4551
- Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:37 am
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.8
- : Buy Me A Beverage
- Has thanked: 252 times
- Been thanked: 412 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
No, this Watchdog is for the Order Process.
I am not here to build for you.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
-
frankl
- Builder
- Posts: 159
- Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:39 pm
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.4
- Has thanked: 17 times
- Been thanked: 25 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
Payment method
Credit card
- payment is more likely to be fraudulent than say Paypal or bank transfer.
Paypal
- has two different types of delivery address, Verified and Unverified. Unverified is more likely to be fraudulent.
- Paypal eCheque, the first couple of these the staff processed as if it was a normal Paypal payment (and thus safe). Not so.
Telephone Number
- mobile is more likely to be fraudulent than a landline
Also, try out my Verify Customer addon to cut down on scammers (especially useful for checking mobile phone numbers) - app.php/addons/free_addon/customer_verify_email_sms
Credit card
- payment is more likely to be fraudulent than say Paypal or bank transfer.
Paypal
- has two different types of delivery address, Verified and Unverified. Unverified is more likely to be fraudulent.
- Paypal eCheque, the first couple of these the staff processed as if it was a normal Paypal payment (and thus safe). Not so.
Telephone Number
- mobile is more likely to be fraudulent than a landline
Also, try out my Verify Customer addon to cut down on scammers (especially useful for checking mobile phone numbers) - app.php/addons/free_addon/customer_verify_email_sms
Check out my addons - app.php/addons/author/frankl/contributions
-
frankl
- Builder
- Posts: 159
- Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:39 pm
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.4
- Has thanked: 17 times
- Been thanked: 25 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
Another one -
High risk products. Some products are popular for scammers (items they can relist on marketplaces and get rid of)
High risk products. Some products are popular for scammers (items they can relist on marketplaces and get rid of)
Check out my addons - app.php/addons/author/frankl/contributions
- burt
- Core Team
- Posts: 4551
- Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:37 am
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.8
- : Buy Me A Beverage
- Has thanked: 252 times
- Been thanked: 412 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
Nice ideas, thank you for getting involved in making this the best it can be.
I am not here to build for you.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
- burt
- Core Team
- Posts: 4551
- Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:37 am
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.8
- : Buy Me A Beverage
- Has thanked: 252 times
- Been thanked: 412 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
Where does Paypal store this info in the DB ?
I am not here to build for you.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
-
Dan Cole
- Senior Contributor
- Posts: 498
- Joined: Fri Oct 25, 2019 2:14 pm
- Phoenix Version: 1.0.8.21
- Has thanked: 67 times
- Been thanked: 61 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
Gary...it shows up under the comments section for the order status (PayPal [Transactions]) and looks like this:
Transaction ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Payer Status: verified
Address Status: confirmed
Payment Status: Pending
Payment Type: instant
Pending Reason: authorization
Source: IPN
Dan
Transaction ID: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Payer Status: verified
Address Status: confirmed
Payment Status: Pending
Payment Type: instant
Pending Reason: authorization
Source: IPN
Dan
-
frankl
- Builder
- Posts: 159
- Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:39 pm
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.4
- Has thanked: 17 times
- Been thanked: 25 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
We've seen every type of ecommerce fraud there can be
Check out my addons - app.php/addons/author/frankl/contributions
- burt
- Core Team
- Posts: 4551
- Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:37 am
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.8
- : Buy Me A Beverage
- Has thanked: 252 times
- Been thanked: 412 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
At what point does Paypal create that entry ?
Is it prior to checkout_success, on checkout_success, or sometime after ?
Is it prior to checkout_success, on checkout_success, or sometime after ?
I am not here to build for you.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
- burt
- Core Team
- Posts: 4551
- Joined: Tue Oct 29, 2019 9:37 am
- Phoenix Version: v1.1.0.8
- : Buy Me A Beverage
- Has thanked: 252 times
- Been thanked: 412 times
Re: Fraud Checking, based on Rules made by YOU
I decided to go "Scoring-Only" rather than a full on "Auto-Blocking"...
Why a "Scoring-Only" System is Useful
Avoids Lost Sales
– No accidental blocks
Saves Time
– Focus review efforts on only high-risk orders
Flexible
– Adjust scoring rules as fraud patterns change.
Transparent
– Shopowner sees exactly why an order was flagged
Why This Beats Auto-Blocking
Reduces false positives
- legitimate orders aren’t cancelled.
Builds customer trust
– more orders get a chance
Adapts to new fraud trends
– rules can easily be changed or evolve
I think it's a pretty solid system.
I'm hopeful of getting some feedback from those who try it.
Why a "Scoring-Only" System is Useful
Avoids Lost Sales
– No accidental blocks
Saves Time
– Focus review efforts on only high-risk orders
Flexible
– Adjust scoring rules as fraud patterns change.
Transparent
– Shopowner sees exactly why an order was flagged
Why This Beats Auto-Blocking
Reduces false positives
- legitimate orders aren’t cancelled.
Builds customer trust
– more orders get a chance
Adapts to new fraud trends
– rules can easily be changed or evolve
I think it's a pretty solid system.
I'm hopeful of getting some feedback from those who try it.
I am not here to build for you.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.
I am here to build with you. Let's help each other.