burt wrote: ↑Sat Sep 19, 2026 9:00 am
3. Forum visual redesign — @azpro "make it white and blue."
Done -
3 hours that I don't have ... spent on this.
This is part of what I mean. One person says, "change the forum design". You waste three hours on doing something that at least some of the forum users don't like. It's still not finished. This absolutely was not a development task (the parts remaining may be). Why undertake it in the first place?
I read back through the thread. There's someone working on a Pro version of Phoenix. You should realize that I created a whole set of maintenance scripts for that. But instead of asking for help like access to those scripts, we find out, after the fact, that someone's recreating that. And doesn't want to maintain it. I don't see what the point is of announcing a project that you aren't going to support. We continuously pour out effort. We need a system that channels that effort into productivity.
Development is easy. Support is hard. And expensive, so it needs to be monetized.
At some point, you just have to say no. No, they can't have free work redoing the forum design. No, they can't have their feature in core. Just no. Just because something is actionable doesn't mean that you have to take action on it.
All that said, if someone volunteers to take over maintenance of the web site and coordinate volunteers, I can put a day into working on the add-ons area to make it less custom. I'll need the development version up again so that I can edit that first. That person can't be Burt, who has clearly said that he doesn't have time. Let's respect that.
Two problems leap out at me. One, a number of icons are broken, particularly in the add-ons area (a few seem broken in the forum). Two, some of the design in the add-on area is still using the old colors. I can devote a day to that (what was broken in three hours will likely take twelve to fix).
